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the pants i been waiting for
for reference im 5 foot 11 inches, 155lbs, and 30/31 inch waist. i wear size 30 in everything pstagonia puts a numerical size too (like the qaundary shorts, lightweight all wear hemp shorts, etc). i found these fit just like the rest, perfect. i been waiting for patagonia to release a slim/trim fit pair of hiking trousers with tapered legs. i love... Read More everything about these pants. so much i bought each color twice. they have great articulation without sacrificing durability, super breathable, functional as well as adjustable so you dont need to wear a belt. im actually scratching my head to some of the negative comments about these pants. these are a game changer in my opinion, and i think patagonia should expand on the point peak line like they have with the altvia. point peak trail shorts with 8 inch inseam please! also, more colors. ill be giving them a more thorough test this winter walking the 800+ miles of the Shikoku Henro Trail in Japan. in the mean time i been doing shorter trails and bike packing trips with these and they been bomb proof.
The waist runs oddly small. I am a 31-32 and I purchased the 33 because the 32's are tight, even with the velcro loose. I love the look and feel but the butt area is too loose and baggy and they simply look too big. The Altivia 32's fit perfectly. I wish these fit the same. Off to return them...
We're really glad you like the fit of the Altvia's. Thank you for the feedback Peter.
I wanted to like these pants...
Most Patagonia stuff fits me pretty well, is of high quality, and well designed. Most of that is true with these pants, with the exception of the open pockets at sides. For some reason they puff out (do not lay flat) and look absolutely ridiculous, to the point where I am embarrassed to wear them anywhere but the backcountry. Pant performance is ve... Read Morery good. Appearance leaves a LOT to be desired. Never had this problem with a pair of pants before. Kinda disappointed...
Thank you for this thoughtful and valuable feedback on the sizing, quality and design of the pants, Brian! If you find that the pocket feature is a dealbreaker, we encourage you to return them under our [Ironclad Guarantee](https://help.patagonia.com/s/article/Ironclad-Guarantee).
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