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These bibs are perfect. I use them for XC/trail rides between 1-3hrs - With the dirt craft shorts, they're good for fall weather. With dirt roamer shorts, 90 degree days are possible (if not always comfortable). Love the low-rise cut, the chamois is the best-stitched and most comfortable of any I've had (and I've tried more than a fe... Read Morew) and the bib straps are imperceptible. Don't change a thing, please! (But if you have to change something, swap the attachment type between short & bib - This will make them more compatible with other shorts.)
Depends whats important
The fit and comfort of these bib liners is outstanding. I was leery if the suspender straps but theyre comfy and functional. The back pockets not so much. Found it pretty hard to get things into the side pockets. Not a deal breaker for me but if pocket accessibility is an issue for you these might not work. Might get easier after they stretch out o... Read Morever time though.
ALMOST PERFECT under bib
Received a pair of these roughly a month ago right before I was about to spend three days attending a mtb instructor/coach summit so I knew I'd be spending roughly 8-10 hours each day in these and it'd be a good test on whether I'd order more. Well, I ordered two more pairs so I'll leave it to you to figure out if I liked them o... Read Morer not. :D I ride everything from road to gravel to trail to bike park laps so I have a range of kits to compare these against. In my cycling life I've rode in Pearl Izumi, Giro, Hincapie, Champion Systems, etc. These things are very, very, very close to perfect and I'll list pros and cons below. PROS: 1. The three hidden pockets. I hate having things in my pockets when I'm on a any dirt. Phone, tool and car keys ride back there unnoticed by anyone, most importantly me. 2. The Chamios is unbelievably supportive without being a diaper. As I stated above I was in my first pair three straight warmer days for 8-10 hours. Never once did being uncomfortable or feeling like I was sitting in a dank bog cross my mind. 3. Well vented and lightweight materials. Since we're going to be wearing these under baggies the super sheer fabric breathes well but doesn't feel fragile. 4. Shoulder straps are nice and soft. 5. Leg grippers are great, actually help keep my knee pads up. CONS: 1. Straps are sewn a little to far toward the outside of the torso and the front could come up a little bit more. They said they did this to make it easier to urinate. Which I guess, but I don't really care about wrenching the bibs down far enough to wiz trailside. Not a deal breaker and there isn't any uncomfortable pressure on the abdomen. 2. The three pockets should be sewn to be independent pockets. This one seems like a complete no-brainer but when I take my phone out my keys and tool immediately slip into the center pocket. Kind of a hassle when I go to put my phone back but whatever it's better than in my shorts pockets. 3. Straps, while soft and nice against the skin, do need some sort of reinforcement to prevent bunching over the shoulders. Again, doesn't happen all the time and when it does it doesn't really bother me that much. All-in-all, the best under short bibs I've worn, and while the CONS are there they are minimal and if fixed these would easily be flawless.
After putting thousands of miles on the previous Endless Ride bibs, I find the Dirt Roamer bibs better in every way. The chamois is much nicer, the bibs are much cooler, and the pockets hold a water bottle more securely. The straps are a little thin and twist around when you put them on, but they are much more comfortable. Once I start riding, I fo... Read Morerget that I have them on.
Hits and misses
I have a pair from last year and was greatly looking for the updated version. My only complaint from last year's bibs was that the amount of fabric that covered the stomach that made it difficult to take a quick trail side leak. This year's bibs addressed that problem, and the chamois felt even better than last years. But then I pulled th... Read Moree bibs over and was disappointed in the new strap fabric. It stretches very thin and doesn't lay flat over the shoulders but instead bunches up. Despite numerous attempts to get it to lay flat it just wouldn't. Never had this problem with last year's bibs. Perhaps if you have a slightly shorter than normal torso you won't encounter this problem. There are many improvements to last year's bibs but unfortunately I think they fail in the strap department. I really was excited for these shorts and don't discourage you from trying them as torso length certainly varies person to person.
Pocket design ruins otherwise nice bib
Got these because I liked the endless ride bib shorts from last year. This year the the pockets are not sewn as three individual silos. If you put a small item, like a multi-tool or flat repair kit, all your items merge to the center. How did this not get realized in product testing? Positive are the chamois is comfortable ans the bid straps are le... Read Moress chaffing against the skin.
We are so sorry to hear about the troubles you've had with these compared to previous designs. We greatly appreciate the feedback though, and would advise you [send](https://www.patagonia.com/returns.html) these back to us since they aren't working for you.
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