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I'm in a sizing black hole...
I can only rate these pants based on sizing--I'm 5'8", 165 pounds, and I carry extra weight in my thighs (a bit of an athletic pear). I tried the large first and was just swimming in them. I could adjust the waist down, but the seat area was just too baggy, even with layers, so I exchanged for a medium. I could get the medium on, but... Read More with layers it just felt too tight. I feel like I either need to gain or lose about 10 pounds to make either size work. Disappointed, because I think the pants would probably be great if they fit! Love the orange color and the features. Ah well. Can't win them all!
Thank you for the review, Ruth. We're sorry to hear that the fit was tricky with these! We have plenty of other snow pant options you can check out [here](https://www.patagonia.com/shop/womens-snow-alpine-pants). If you need measurements to ensure a good fit, please reach out to our customer service team and we'll happily send those your way!
Great lightweight ski pants
Just took these skiing as an upgrade from some previous snow pants. Currently 5'6"-5'7" and 170 pounds, and got the large. It fit well, with room for moderate curves (I think my natural waist is ~33" right now, and fullest point of my hips is ~43"). These hit about mid-rise for me - not so low-slung as some of the pant... Read Mores designed for snowboarders, which is good for keeping snow out. Definitely glad I got the uninsulated version - it's less bulky and lets you modify for the weather way more. On a day in the teens, I could layer thermals and pants beneath them; on a day in the thirties just needed a pair of cold-weather leggings to stay warm. Also more of a nice-to-have, but the pockets along the thigh are soooo much nicer for storing odds and ends than ones just below the waistband (which invariably pinch and get uncomfortable while you're sitting on a lift and can't adjust anything lest you lose your wallet to a snowbank 20 feet below).
Well-Made Winter Outer Layer
I bought these to replace some circa 2005 softshell pants and a similarly aged rain pant and they did it wonderfully! We were between 0 and 10 degrees F for a skiing vacation and with the pack out tights, my legs weren't cold. There wasn't enough backside insulation without something to sit on. Regarding fit, I usually order size 30/Med... Read Moreium, but these have no give at the waist, so they feel a bit constricting when I sit down. They are also about 1 or 2 inches longer than I'd like. It is nice for a ski boot, but I don't like it when it drags with regular boots on.
I've never skied before and the friendly & helpful staff where amazing at finding the right pants for me. The smalls were too small and the mediums were too big, but there is an adjustable waistband on the inside of the pants so I went with the mediums. I've worn them several times already and the quality is great!
Great fabric! Think the pant
Great fabric! Think the pant technology would be great but fit is way off! Legs are beyond large and crotch area way to big ! Wish they fit better I would have kept them!
Hi Donna! Thank you for taking the time to write us a review. We're really sorry to hear about the disappointment with fit. Feedback like this is crucial to improving products for future seasons so we'll share this with our design team. Your satisfaction is always guaranteed so you're welcome to [return](https://www.patagonia.com/returns.html).
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