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Love this material - it is light and breathable but very warm. I have big legs and it is tough to find slimmer garments that fit me decently. The calves are a bit tight and pulling them up above my ski boots is a bit uncomfortable so I would prefer a bit wider fit in the calf area. Very pleased with my purchase!
I bought these for additional
I bought these for additional warmth while skiing. Unfortunately, the ankle cuffs are very large, untapered, and without elastic. This would require folding the excess material around the lower leg which is intolerable in well fitting ski boots. They would likely work well for all other applications and seemed well made otherwise.
Hi Alan, we're very sorry to hear that you're not having the best experience with the Capilene Thermal Weight Bottoms. If you find that the fit is too bothersome, please feel free to begin a [return or exchange](https://www.patagonia.com/returns.html) at any time.
Say Goodbye to Cold Legs
I bought this specifically for the cold, wet and windy Cape Town winters when you gotta be outside but don't want your legs to freeze. I'd wear this under a pair of jeans and they were brilliant. I've attended many outdoor events with them as a baselayer and they are phenomenal at retaining warmth. Indoors, they can act as comfy swe... Read Moreatpants that are stretchy, very light and incredibly warm. They are a tiny bit see-through. As with most of the capilene air line of clothing, the wool can be a bit itchy the first time you wear the clothing, but you get used to it and the abrasion subsides quickly, nothing to really worry about.
Warm, thick, comfy base. Good quality. I wish I would've gotten a size smaller. They're pretty loose.
Thank you for submitting this review, Garrett. If you decide you'd prefer a smaller size please remember you are always welcome to [exchange](https://www.patagonia.com/returns.html) them. Let us know if we can help!
At 79 yrs my activities
At 79 yrs my activities are more sedate now - hiking, fast walking, photo-ing, some biking, etc. These thermal weight capalene base layer pants are warm, comfortable, fexible allowing for much movement - ie pedaling, kneeling, lots of bending etc - some stretching out but still maintain fit and function. Worn under shorts they keep me plenty warm, ... Read Morealthough in rain when wet they lose some warmth. Some snagging but easily repaired. My second pair, highly recommend for somewhat passive activities , ie wallking hiking etc (don't know how they work in more extreme applications)
Warm but restrictive
I have other base layers that are much less restrictive. This garment is bulky and the waist band is too thick and tight. To make them work, you must have oversized outer wear for comfort and freedom of movement. Not exactly what I was expecting.
Hey Ira, thanks for the review. We're sorry to hear that it didn't work out with these bottoms. Our thermal weight baselayers will be the thickest option available. If you were looking for something more lightweight, but still warm, we recommend checking out the [Men's Capilene Air Bottoms](https://www.patagonia.com/product/mens-capilene-air-baselayer-bottoms/36556.html?dwvar_36556_color=FGX&cgid=root).
Warm, comfy, lacking in durability, big floppy ankles
Was taking a trip to Ecuador to climb some Andean peaks, including Chimborazo, the closest you can get to the sun on Earth. I tried half a dozen different baselayer before settling on these. These were the warmest of all the baselayers I had tried. But were really lacking in durability. Pros: Warm Comfortable Non-black color is cool Cons: -Durabi... Read Morelity. I have only worn them once, for about ten hours, and they are already showing more wear and tear than other baselayers I have had for a decade or more. No other baselayer has shown this much wear and tear, even when worn with the same shells. Doesn't bode well for long term lifespan. -Loose ankles**. This is totally a preference thing. There are two groups or opinions here. One group of people like loose ankles, and they pull the ankles up to their calves to keep them out of their ski boots or mountaineering boots, which causes bunching of fabric up around the calf. The other group of people likes snug tight fitting ankles that go inside the boot(s). Being snug prevents folds, wrinkles, and pressure points. I am in the latter group. So while SOME people may appreciate the loose floppy ankles with tons of extra fabric, I don't. I'd definitely want them more snug. Think about which group you belong to. All things considered, would not buy again, not even at half price. Maybe if I could get them at 70% off or more, but even at 50% off, they're not worth it. I have a 31" waist and inseam, and the small fit well (except the big baggy ankles...)
Hi Michael, we're bummed to hear the Capilene Thermal Weight Bottoms were showing signs of wear and tear so early on your trip. Please feel free to begin a [return or exchange](https://www.patagonia.com/returns.html) at any time.
As others have noted, the fit is odd, with a tight waist but somewhat baggy legs. I bought one size smaller than my usual, and it mostly worked OK. The material is lighter and thinner than I expected, but it performed well on a rafting trip where I wore it nonstop. All in all, a good product.
My other bottoms are size
My other bottoms are size medium and the fit is perfect. This one is huge, away to baggy house under my waders.
Thank you so much for writing this review Mitchell! We want to extend our sincerest apologies that the sizing and fit were not what you were expecting. Please know you are more than welcome to start a [return or exchange](https://www.patagonia.com/returns.html) at any time as we want you to be completely satisfied with your Patagonia products.
Time Will Tell
I bought these in XS (my usual size) when my twenty year old red expedition weight couldn't hold up to one more waistband replacement. The waistband on these certainly appears to do better in that department. In fact, that's why I had to exchange them for a small. The body of the leggings was perfect-- the waistband was absurdly painful (... Read MoreI wear size 28). Even the small is tight enough that I have to keep them under the top of the ilium rather than at my waist. It would be too uncomfortable otherwise. I like the light weight of the fabric, but only time (and a full winter or two) will tell if they can compete with my old red expeditions...
Good Long Johns
I just took these out on a trip to AK and spent about two weeks wearing them. So far the quality seems good and I liked the level of warmth they provided with breathability. Did well on a day where we went from getting super hot in the sun to getting cold and blasted by wind after dark.
The cut is too large
I had high hope but it has to go back because the cut is too large for it be useful as an insulation layer.
We're sorry to hear these didn't work for you, Michael and we appreciate your feedback. You may prefer our [Midweight Capilene or Capilene Air Bottoms](https://www.patagonia.com/shop/mens-baselayers). Please let us know if you haven't returned your purchase yet. We'll be happy to help!
Not Quite Right
Bought these for the light weight fabric to help out with my ultralight backpacking kit. Love the fabric weight(5.7oz for the mediums) and comfort but the crotch and ankles are just too loose. When I stretch my knees as in sitting or climbing, the ankles ride up my legs and it takes some time for gravity to let them settle back down to my ankles. T... Read Morehe loose ankles also allow for wind to blow under them. I've got two pairs of poly/spandex tights from another company that hug my legs from top to bottom and don't ride up. Those are 20 years old and still going strong with heavy use...no holes or anything. If these LW Thermals fit like those do, they'd be awesome.
Hey Dale, thanks for leaving us a review, we appreciate your input. It sounds like you might benefit from a size down. Currently we're out of stock in most sizes, but we should be getting more in February. If you'd like to exchange out, you're welcome to begin that process [here](https://www.patagonia.com/returns.html). Please note exchanges are only eligible for product in new condition purchased through our website within the year.
A Joy to Wear
A perfect blend of comfort and function. It drapes around the leg in a relaxed fit that allows for more stretch and mobility, but never feels baggy or bunched regardless of movement. They also regulate temp so well that I can wear these if im heading to work outside in -40 degree windchills, or if im just lounging around the house at 62 degrees.... Read More Will be ordering a second pair so I can finally take this pair off!
Gets the job done
Amazing thermals that get the job done. They offer great warm but I do find a wind sneaking in depending on the outer layer from time to time. So about the fit. For a rough estimate Im 62 and 185lb. I had to order a Medium but Im normally in a large for Patagonia bottoms. Maybe they expect them to fit loose, but either way I have always liked therm... Read Moreals that are more fitted and these did the job. Overall great.
Fall-Winter Must for Cool Conditions
I live in a cold house no matter the time of year - like 64 degrees max. So I wear these under almost anything during cold spells and feel warm and comfortable. That said, I also wear them under hiking pants, fly fishing waders, guide pants during cool and cold weather. Theyre the most incredible under layer Ive ever owned. I need two pair to get m... Read Moree through washings.
An essential winter hiking layer, or casual winter layering piece.
I just bought my second pair of these. My first pair is still going strong after 4 years, but I decided to double up after finding a second pair on sale. These are my favorite base layer for winter hiking in the White Mountains. I wear them under a shell layer in temps below 40F. I've used them down to a -30 windchill and, as I layer them, my... Read More legs don't get cold while I'm hiking. Occasionally in tree cover I find myself venting the sides of my shell pants because my legs can get pretty toasty. My legs do tend to run warmer while hiking. These leggings seem to stay pretty breathable and I'd say they dry on the faster side. These also rule as a casual camping layer in shoulder season, or a under layer in the dead of winter for chilly mornings or casual outdoor activities.
love the fabric but needs some tweaks to be perfect
I love this fabric. The fit is truly odd though. First of all the length is about 2 inches longer than I expected. For me that is not a big deal, I actually like pulling it down over my feet when im cold-kickin it. The real peculiarities lie in the crotch and waist area. For one the front flap doesn't overlap; there is basically just a hole ... Read Morethere which is annoying. If I dont wear underwear my junk will just find its way out between the flaps. Secondly there is enough space to fit like 4 pairs of buttcheeks in the torso portion. I can pull the waist bad up to my nipples. its just a very weird combination of form fitting and baggy. I use them to wear over smartwool leggings that fit my body effortlessly. otherwise in order for them to fit as a standalone piece I roll the waist down 2 cuffs and the leg openings up one big cuff. Also the tags are so annoying and in order to return/warranty them you are supposed to keep the STY portion which just happens to be at the bottom of a tag that feels like it is long enough to be tucked in your socks. I still love them strangely enough and I wear them every day (seriously) the fabric and lofting is so amazing that I can deal with the absurd fit. PS the tops fit perfect. Dont change those please.
Not as warm as old version
They seem well made, like everything from Patagonia. But they are VERY airy, unlike the old Patagonia underwear of this style. Zero wind-proofness. Imagine extremely thin sheer see-through stretchy outer material, then attach 1/8-inch stripes of microfleece alternating with 1/8-inch stripes of air. Your skin shows through easily, especially at any ... Read Morearea that stretches, like your knees. And is easily exposed to wafting air at those points particularly. I wish I could attach a pic for this review since none of the pics on the site show it.
While the waist size was accurate, the legs are super baggy. I don't know how they could effectively trap heat inside. Returning.
Hello Dan, we're truly sorry these bottoms weren't the correct fit for you and that they were too baggy on the legs. Our sizing and designs are constantly being revised and customer's feedback is one of the contributing factors to these changes, so receiving messages like this really helps us improve. Thanks for your review!
I wanted something warm to go under my Patagonia Simul Alpine Pants when hiking on super cold days. Today it was 15 degrees and they worked perfectly. I usually go up on sizes but I recommend getting a medium if you're a medium so they keep heat in close to body. I did sweat after a few hours but they kept dry. Perfect combo and worth the pric... Read Moree to stay warm and comfortable .
Not as warm or comfortable as older version
I bought these to replace the capilene thermal pants my husband lost and was disappointed with the new fabric. The previous set of thermal weight capilene was warmer and felt more comfortable. Love Patagonia but for me this updated pant feels like a miss.
We are sorry to hear that this missed the mark for you and appreciate your feedback. Your satisfaction is so important to us so please feel free to [send](https://www.patagonia.com/returns.html) these back.
My go-to baselayer.
Patagonia's capilene thermal weight layers are so phenomenal. The cut/fit is great, really comfortable, no bulkiness, and the fabric is much warmer than one might think just holding it, but with an outer layer and/or shell it really does provide incredible warmth, but even more importantly to me: incredible breathability. I tend to run hot and... Read More sweat easily during medium-to-high output activities, so I absolutely need breathability in cold weather and the cap thermals breath SO well and I'm able to perfectly manage heat buildup. I use the cap thermal pants for everything. Hiking/trekking, fly fishing, and especially snowboarding - you name it, I've worn them for it. Don't ever discontinue these!
I’ve had 5 or 6
I’ve had 5 or 6 sets of your Capilene Long underwear. In the past I’ve bought small sizes without thermal bottoms. Since it’s been awhile since I had a new pair I went to your size chart and bought mediums. They are way too long and from the knee down they are baggy. I hesitate to return underwear that don’t fit. I’m 5’7” tall, weigh 148lbs and hav... Read Moree a 33-34” waist.
Although the workmanship was good (as usual) this product does not provide the warmth which the "title" represents. They are likely fine for one who on occasion ventures out of the office, I need a non-see through fabric. It feels like a breeze is penetrating my outer wear which is a tight weave and a Patagonia pant.
Ordered based on sizing chart
Ordered based on sizing chart and they were way too small.
Hello Maria! Thanks for taking the time to write us a review. We're sorry to hear that the size you ordered based off the size chart didn't fit right. Your satisfaction is guaranteed so you're welcome to [return](https://www.patagonia.com/returns.html#searchterm=return).
Excellent Breathable Base Layer
I've been wearing Capilene thermal weight bottoms for a little over a year now and I continue to be impressed by their performance. The tops and bottoms are extremely lightweight and pack very well. The material is thin - almost 'see through' in between the insulation grid but this does not seem to hinder the warmth at all when layer... Read Moreed under a shell. I have skied 10+ hours with temperatures in the 10-25F range with only a pair of ski pants on over top and never had the slightest bit of a chill. I've decided to purchase a second pair of Capilene Thermal bottoms over merino wool because I really don't feel like the extra warmth of merino wool is worth all the fuss of taking care of it. You can toss Capilene in the wash and it's nearly dry enough to wear after the spin cycle.
Expedition Weight Capilene Seekers
I've seen quite a few reviews on hear discussing the current Thermal Weight Capilene not being as warm as their predecessor the Expedition Weight Capilene. I believe the current iteration is meant to strike the balance between warmth and breath-ability. However, if you find yourself wanting the warmth of the Expedition weight I would suggest t... Read Moreaking a look at the Men's Crosstrek Fleece Bottoms. They are made from the exact same material as the old Expedition Weight (Polartec Power Stretch). They may not be as tight as other baselayers but aren't too much of a compromise. If you are looking for breath-ability and overall versatility these are perfect. Hope this helps!
Capilene thermal bottoms-mens
I haven't used them hiking yet but wore them around the house on a cold evening. They feel very comfy and as warm as expected. They fit well; I'm 5'5" and got a small. Unfortunately, the listed weight was way off; very much misadvertising. They are listed at 4.7oz for a medium and i was told 4.3oz for a small. My small weighs 6.... Read More4oz, about 50% more then the listed weight. As someone trying to lighten their pack with an efficient clothing system, this was very disappointing and has me reconsidering patagonia for other lightweight options like rain jacket. Unfortunately i had worn it around for a couple hours and ripped the tags off before weighing it.
Lightweight and packable,not very warm
I purchased these a month ago. They feel nice and are easy to pack. However,they are not warm. They aren't as warm as my older edition Capilene Midweight bottoms. They aren't as warm as some older,cheaper bottoms I have. If you're looking to save ounces,they're great. If you want to stay warm,go with something else.
One could argue these pants are in the gradation between the mid-weight bottoms and a pair of fleece pants,but for me this is not entirely the case,read on. These thermals are ribbed with a 1/2 inch wide horizontal band of insulation and then just the thin carcass material for the the next 1/2 inch. Which in a 3 layer set up below a pair of fleece ... Read Morepants,with the wind and water resistant outer layer,would make the over all set up slightly lighter weight/less bulky but equally as warm,compared to a not ribbed full insulation design. I intended to use these in a 2 layer set up below a pair of rain pants that are not air tight at the ankle,this setup allows a little cold wind up the ankle,which would be of no consequence,if your bottom layer had a full insulation design. Zoom in really close on the web pictures,and you can see what I mean.
A bit disappointed
Bought these thermal weight bottoms believing they would a good replacement for my 10+ year old thermal weight bottom. They are not nearly as warm of comfortable as the original fleece type offering. I am not saying that they are not useful or well made,but they require heavier shell insulation to achieve the same overall warmth and they just don&#... Read Morex27;t give the same instant comfort of the expedition fleece. They are fine if you know what you are getting,but definitely not an equal replacement for the great expedition weight Patagonia classics.
These are great and are a perfect weight for wearing under my shell while backcountry skiing. I got them just before Christmas and I just returned from a hut trip to Canada where we had a week of cold temps (high temps of -20 C on several days). These did a good job of both keeping me warm and also breathing enough so I didn't get too sweaty. ... Read MoreThey were perfect and I will be wearing them often this winter and in the winters to come!
These baselayer bottoms work great in a variety of conditions. I wore them under lightweight hiking pants with temps in the 40s and was not cold while on the trail. They also work well to layer under jeans for walking around town in the winter,and even inside with jeans they don't feel too hot. I love that I can leave them on all day,whether I... Read More'm inside or outside,active or lounging. I tried on the merino thermal weight bottoms to compare and these were a looser fit (more comfortable for me),whereas the merino bottoms were more like tights.
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