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Compared to last version
Compared to the last version of these pants, which I really liked, these are different in good and bad ways. One thing I dont like is the lack of built in draw cord. I really like that feature. Not having to wear a belt when climbing was good. I also liked the last versions pocket. I have nothing against the new zipper pocket, it fits my phone, but... Read More I liked the easy access of that last one and thought that little elastic net in it was clever. Other than that these seem better in all other ways. The fabric seems burlier and much more stretchy. There is virtually zero limit in range of motion. You could do yoga in these. The cord at the bottom of the leg is a great idea. The waist is definitely an inch smaller than the written size, but the elastic compensates for that so its very comfortable and hugs the hips well. They seems like great climbing/hiking/travel pants. Oh, and THANK YOU for making them in short guy size. We appreciate not having to tailor them!
Still wish the all cotton were available
I was disappointed that I couldnt get the old all cotton Vengas but ordered these and crossed my fingers. At first they felt kinda weird sort of a cross between cotton and plastic. Which is pretty much what they are. Now after a few weeks of wear I dont even notice how they feel, which is what you want.
Great if you have an active lifestyle
My first pair of these were a gift and liked them so much I bought another pair. If all you do is sit on the couch all the time they are really comfortable but if you intend to be active they are truly great no matter what you are doing. The pants are also extremely tough and exceptionally well made. The pants are not at all baggy but the only thin... Read Moreg less restrictive than these pants are loose shorts which are not always an option. These are now the only pants I wear.
Great changes for the Venga
I've used the Venga for several years, mostly for climbing. I had a few complaints about the "old" version, mostly because the thin cotton ripped easily. I liked the "old" Venga because they were very comfortable. The latest version of the Venga included some excellent changes. The material for the new Venga is a bit more r... Read Moreobust and has a tad bit of stretch, which is a welcome change that make the pants climb better and (probably) last longer. Patagonia has replaced a leg pocket that was rather useless with a small zippered pocket that will safely hold things like lip balm. Patagonia also added some elastic to pant leg bottoms that can be cinched, which will nicely keep the cuff from catching on things. Overall, I'm very happy with the "new" Venga and still find the pants to be comfortable.
Great climbing pants
*Full disclosure, I am an employee at Patagonia. Still, don't write reviews for many products but thought these were worth a note.* These are great climbing pants that I happily wear on a day-to-day basis as well. The things I like most about them are the stretch and softness of the fabric, which makes them very comfortable and unrestrictive t... Read Moreo climb in. The zippered thigh pocket fits my larger iPhone and makes it easy to access when wearing a harness. Cuff adjustments are nice for cinching up, for a better view of your foot placements, but personally I just roll them a few times when climbing. The fabric is holding up well after dozens of days at the boulders and crags around Southern California. They're a good weight for cool weather climbing (anything from 45-75 F. Anything warmer and I usually switch to shorts or a pant with lighter fabric like the Hampi. The new waistband in these is interesting, in that it uses partial elastic to keep them snug without the need for a belt. That said, the elastic is not super tight, so when I have a lot of items in my pockets I prefer to wear a belt with them (they have belt loops). For context, I wear 35 in some other Patagonia pants (the Performance Twill Jeans, for example), but wear 34 in these and they're still a tiny bit loose at the waist due to the elastic. Again, belt solves this for around town, and I never wear a belt when climbing because don't want anything under the harness. On the whole, great pants! I prefer them to the previous Vengas for their cut and their stretch and general comfort. Highly recommend!
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