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Very cold weather wear
Needed to update jacket for those crazy cold days ski coaching. The fit allows for what we call, 'a double down day'. (Extra layers) Haven't experienced that yet, but have full confidence that Patagonia will out perform all others. Lightweight, and packable, along with full attention to detail, should make this jacket the go to when ... Read Morethe weather gets rough. Thanks Patagonia!!
New colors are very nice but still a study in compromise
If last year's colors were the only thing holding you back you won't be disappointed with the Touring Red version this year. It's a very nice color combo and the online photos are true to color. And there's black now too which I haven't seen but is not hard to imagine. I already have the orange and blue versions so I was... Read More able to compare them to the red and I don't see any changes this year other than color, which is part good and part not so good. It's not a perfect parka but it checks a lot of boxes and the fit on me is so good I can look past what's lacking. I really wish Patagonia would have committed to a fully proper version of this jacket which would have only required a few tweaks. Unfortunately, compromise seems to be part and parcel of Patagonia's product line. Why sell one complete product to a consumer when you can sell several incomplete products? Aside from that, having owned three of these I will say that the construction quality of these jackets is also not real consistent and this was not addressed by Patagonia with this year's version. But overall the jacket has more pluses than minus and if you get it on sale it's a very good value. Things I like: Fit, finish, materials, main zipper, hood, draw cords, cuffs, color (red), loft, innovative baffle tech. Things I want: insulation on both sides of exterior pockets, slightly bigger interior pockets with mesh bottoms, consistent construction quality, more robust pocket zippers, more cool color variations.
Falls a little flat for me
I've had a size small fitz roy parka for several years, but after putting on a few extra lbs I was no longer to effectively layer underneath it, but before I could buy a medium Grade VII, Patagonia got rid of both the G7 and the Fitz Roy Parka, and in doing so made something that is too generic for serious alpinists/mountaineers. While the alp... Read Moreloft supposedly has nearly as much down as the old G7, I don't find it any warmer than my fitz roy and it seems less lofty. They additionally cheaped out on a few areas, got rid of the mesh internal pockets (you need mesh to help dry wet gloves/other clothing), and it seems like the sleeve rollup system doesn't work as well as some of their other items. It's clear what they're trying to do: put out updated versions of the G7 and the fitz roy at more accessible price points. That's fine for people looking for Canada Goose alternatives, but these are supposed to be serious products for serious activities. At the very least I'd recommend that Patagonia's product designers look at putting a few extra bucks into the items I noted above, or ideally bring back the old fitz roy parka and the G7. You're never going to get rich off of ultra warm specialty down jackets (unless you're Canada Goose I guess), so you nail the last 10% of little details and charge an extra 50-100 bucks.
Thank you so much for your comments and your feedback Chuck! We are also very sorry to hear that this parka did not work out for you. Please know you are more than welcome to return this product at any time as we want all of our customers to be 100% satisfied with all of their products. With that said, we would also recommend taking a look at our [Worn Wear](https://wornwear.patagonia.com/?_gl=1*adf8ht*_ga*MTQ5ODEyNDA3OS4xNjUyMjExNDc2*_ga_1SYPSJZYJ5*MTY4MDg4MDk5OS41NDguMS4xNjgwODgyMjA0LjQ0LjAuMA..) page as they offer lightly worn past season styles and colors at a discounted rate. You may get lucky and find a new Fitz Roy Parka for purchase there! In the meantime, please rest assured that we will be passing your feedback to our Product Designers so they may take a deeper look into making updates to this product in future iterations.
Good Idea, too generic
This parka is a great idea and I do like mine which I wear to and from skiing, winter camping and everyday when I want the cozy feel of a sleeping bag when I'm out in the elements. The design and description fall short in setting the expectation of a very pricey piece of gear. It should be designed in men's and women's and the sizing... Read More should find commonality with the rest of the Patagonia lineup, or the uniquely oversized fit of this piece should be fully explained in the description. I normally wear Large but was swimming in the Large Alploft and had to order a Medium. Perhaps if this was offered in a men's and women's version it could be refit as a more technical/performance piece, which could reduce some of the bulkiness.
Close to being a great parka
It's a good jacket but would benefit from a couple tweaks: Metal zipper sliders on main zipper, full zipper sliders with pulls on exterior pockets (not just tie on pulls which could come off), slightly beefier zippers all around, slightly larger pockets with mesh bottoms, and maybe 2-3cm more roomier width. I'm 5'9" and a small ... Read Morefits well mostly but is a little tighter through the torso than I expected. Design is very nice and I like the two tone blocking but I'd like to see darker colors too. Also, the main seams across the front can make the baffles look different sized. This may be jacket size dependent but nonetheless gives the jackets an inconsistent look from one to another. Haven't had a chance to test warmth against my G7 but seems like it would be comparable or close to it. Nylon materials are very nice, seem durable, and I prefer them to the G7. Overall a nice jacket that seems like it was slightly dumbed down to meet the accounting department's metrics. With just a few changes it could be a great parka. I'd pay more for that version.
Unfortunately I did not get to wear this jacket out in severely frigid conditions to be able to atest to it's warmth but I believe the AlpLoft should keep you warm in temps down to the teens and single digits with the right gear underneath. What I can speak on is the jackets design, feature implementation and simplicity. The stitchless face... Read More fabric with no stitch holes creates a windproof and highly water resistant barrier. Storage is another plus. 2 chest, 2 hand warmer and 2 drop-in pockets allow you to store any and everything you like. Wrist cuffs were snug against the wrists. The hem drawcord which is raised and out of the way is neat, efficient and simple to adjust. The cord lock is embedded and raised to be out of the way and easy to use. Lastly is the well designed hood. The single pull drawcord cinches in the right place and evenly around the circumference of your head and face. Fit is generous without being excessive which is harder to accomplish than people think. Patagonia did a really good job with keeping this jacket light and straight to the point. I would definitely recommend this to anyone looking for a cold weather parka.
Another efficient and concise cold weather piece.
Thankfully I was lucky enough to see and test the Grade VII Parka last year so you know I had to pick this up. For now the AlpLoft is it's sucessor. (no offense please bring back the Grade VII) If you can get past the colors you will see that you have a nicely appointed cold weather jacket. It's been unseasonably warm so I did not get a... Read More chance to test the jacket in really cold weather. I greatly appreciated the fit which wasn't too baggy or excessive. It was comfortable and roomy for layering. The "kiss baffles" on each side of the front zipper adds to the comfort and helps block wind from entering the jacket when it's unzipped. Hand pockets are roomy and set back a bit. Wish they were positioned forward a few inches so you don't have to reach back to put your hands in. Collar and chin area are roomy when zipped up and the single-pull adjustment on the rear of the hood cinch the hood down cleanly and evenly over the head and around the circumference of the face. One of my favorite features is the raised imbedded hem drawcord that is anchored on the inside of the jacket. It's so cleanly implemented and easy to adjust you say why can't ALL jackets be this clean and efficient. Another great feature is no stitching holes on the entire body of the jacket being no stitches holes on the face fabric which greatly improves the outer fabrics wind deflection and heat retention. Even though I didn't get a chance to test this jacket out in some severe conditions the feel and quality of the jacket as well as the stitch less fabric allow me to believe that this piece can handle severe conditions. Patagonia please bring back the Grade VII and see which jacket sells out first. I like both versions. The AlpLoft seems like a streamlined version of the Grade VII.
Almost an Amazing Jacket for me, Could be for you.
I was really excited about this jacket when I first purchased it, however, after wearing it some I've come to find the fit and warmth haven't quite met my expectations. I purchased this jacket for ski mountaineering as a safety layer, something I could ride out a cold night in, and while it is warm, I'm not confident that it would ke... Read Moreep me warm enough while staying stationary in temps less than 10 deg. There seems to be a disproportionate amount of down in the sleeves which make them feel bulky, and not enough in the core. I'm 5'8 and 145lbs. I originally purchased a medium, which had a baggy fit that I liked but the closure system around the waist (I have a 30 in waist) couldn't securely synch enough to keep the heat in. The size small fits well, though there is still a weird bulge of extra material in the belly that looks like a bit of a ponch, and I wish the jacket was about an inch longer. In future versions of this jacket an improved synch closure system around the waist would be nice. The thin cord doesn't feel substantial enough. As other reviews have mentioned. The detailing is excellent. The zipper is nice and smooth, the external fabric is water resistant, and the inside lining is silky. This is an excellent jacket with a few small caveats.
This jacket is unisex. I didnt see that anywhere in the description online. I ordered a small and got a mens small. Ive sent it back twice for a smaller size only because it was a gift.
Thank you for this website feedback, Glennis; we are sharing it with the appropriate teams. Unisex sizing is fairly new for us, so we are still working through how best to communicate details on our website. Please reach out to us if we can help with any of these returns!
Fit and trim on this jacket are very good. I oversized slightly for under layers, but it still fits with just a tee on. Material is tough enough to stand up to a 10 week old gnawing puppy, which probably wasn't tested in the lab. And needless to say it is very, very warm for cold winter weather. Would definitely recommend.
Not bad, not a Grade 7 replacement.
At 5'10, 160-170lb, a medium fit me appropriately for a belay parka. It has been used in dry conditions down to the negative teen Fs. Summary: A good parka for all but the coldest days, as the G7 successor it falls short. It's a good parka in its own right, but because Pata discontinued the G7 and this is the warmest thing they make, ... Read Morecomparisons must be made and the alploft is not an adequate replacement for the G7. It is not my choice for waiting out a blizzard on the west butt. It does layer well, move well, and is warm enough to be stationary in 0F temps in the sun. As always, the detailing is excellent. It's cut shorter, barely covering the crotch up front and about mid-butt in the back. I feel the jacket needs to be 5cm longer for good protection. The hood works great with a helmet IMO, and the collar is a little short. The drop pockets are pretty small and do not stretch except for an elasticated opening so its hard to cram gloves in there. The overall 3D baffling is a cool concept. It's basically 2 layers of stitch through baffles laid on eachother, offset. The full baffle of one layer sits on the "stitch line" of the other layer. Box wall effect without box wall bulk. Got this from Pata's IG. Per Pata, there's 295g 800FP down in here, compared with the G7's 335g 800FP. I can't explain why the alploft feels so much colder than the G7 for a 10% decrease in down. Perhaps different distribution of down if there's more in the sleeves and less in the core, or perhaps the shorter cut.
Hello Smith, thank you for this thorough and detailed review. You've made some very helpful comparisons and we're happy to pass the word along to our product team for further consideration. You're correct about the AlpLoft as a replacement design for the Grade VII Parka. The most prominent changes are that the AlpLoft contains PFC-free DWR, the 3D weaved baffles, the 295-g of RDS versus the 336-g of Traceable Down, and this parka is 2/3 of the price of the Grade VII. Is is essentially our way of making the Grade VII more accessible, with some upgraded features. At the end of the day though, warmth is what is really important. If you find that this parka is not showing as much versatility, we welcome you to send it back. We'd also keep an eye on our [Worn Wear website](https://wornwear.patagonia.com/) for past season Grade VII's. We're not seeing any posted at this time, but we add to inventory frequently so you might have some luck in the future.
Super sad because I wanted this so much
This parka is toasty warm and I wanted something worlds warmer than my down parkas BUT it fits like a sleeping bag and a muumuu made a baby. Not sure if its the unisex sizing (it looked almost as bad on a masc body shape). Planning to return.
Thank you so much for taking the time to write this review and we are very sorry to hear about the issues that you encountered with the fit of this parka. Please rest assured that we will be passing this along to our Product Team so they can take a look at the measurements to make adjustments. In the meantime, please feel free to start your [return](https://www.patagonia.com/returns.html) at any time.
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