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I'm 6' 170lbs surfing in 48-52° water in the NW in the hooded R4. The medium tall fits me great. It's flexible enough and paddles well and is very warm. I'm using it on the warmer end of the temperature that it's rated for, but I'm comparing it to other 5.5/4 suits that I've had and that's how it stacks up. P... Read Moreerhaps it feels more like a 6mm in a number of ways. I have three sessions in it, so I can't speak to the long term durability, but so far so good. I love that Patagonia is trying to make a more environmentally friendly suit that still preforms well. I'd say they're succeeding and I'd recommend this suit based on my experience so far. I bought one of the first Patagonia suits many years ago when they were wool lined and the thickness wasn't disclosed--I liked the lining but those suits were thin and didn't seal well and were not warm enough. This is a big step up from those suits. Nice job Patagonia! A few small things that I would change: -It would be nice if the zipper went the opposite way and didn't need to be lined up, although it's not a deal breaker as is. -The neck could use a little more room or flexibility. Maybe slightly thinner for mobility. -Getting the hood off takes some effort. But it also is one of the warmest hoods that I've ever used and seems to seal quite well, so that's probably the tradeoff. But any more flexibility or mobility in the hood/neck would be appreciated. I'll take great care of this suit and see how it holds up and report back.
Bombproof & now actually comfortable
This is my sixth Patagonia wetsuit. I have yet to retire one because its worn out... A ten years old one I gifted to a friend is still going strong... built like a unimog and about as comfortable. The new rubber is super stretchy and I think theyve finally got the burly to comfort ratio sorted. Super comfortable, warm and holding up well. They cost... Read More a bit more and last waaaaay longer. Theyre an investment... a really good one.
Did not hold up for long
I was a bit disappointed in the quality of this suit since I started having problems after only 1 winter season. The crotch seam tore early in the second season which seems to be a common issue based on other reviews. Also noticed signs of wear on other parts of the suit that I did not have issues with on any of my prior winter suits. Patagonia has... Read More great customer service and they ended up repairing the suit at no charge but I had to wait until spring to send it to them since the process takes a while and I needed the suit to continue surfing. Needless to say it was a very cold winter with a leaky suit. Added an extra star for the customer service and I like how Patagonia tries to be sustainable with their products.
We're truly sorry to hear this, Kyle. But we are happy to hear the folks in Wetsuit Repairs were able to assist you in repairing the suit. If you have any questions regarding wetsuit repair/warranty, please feel free to check out our [Wetsuit Repair and Warranty Form](https://www.patagonia.com/on/demandware.static/-/Library-Sites-PatagoniaShared/default/dw2c4cac25/slots/RMA/PAT_S22_Wetsuit_Repair_Form.pdf). We also passed your thoughts along to our Design Team. Thank you so much for your feedback.
Warm, flexible and very durable.
Ive used my R4 for two winters in Maine, surfing often and sometimes on properly pretty chilly mornings (sea smoke-type weather, around 10 degrees F air temp, low 30s water temp). The suit is good for about an hour in those conditions for me, if paddling hard etc, which it is flexible enough to do. The hood can be cinched nice and tight which helps... Read More avoid freezing wash throughs. The fit is perfect. Im 62, 180lbs, fairly slim, sort of a not-terribly-athletic swimmers build. My suit shows almost no sign of wear yet after a lot of use, without babying it but always following the care instructions. Some slight marks on elbows and knees, nothing more. Its hard wearing enough that, even at full price, it is good value. I bet per surf session it works out cheaper than less expensive, less durable suits. Getting in and out of it in the cold is work, but thats because its a thick winter suit with a front zip. Theres really nothing Id change on it. Its ace, and I would heartily recommend it to anyone who wants to be out on cold days.
Warm but the crotch seam is leaked
I fully Patagonia's mission statement and their use of recycled and more sustained materials in their products. This is my 4th Patagonia wetsuit over the years. Each one improves over the previous generation. Unfortunately, this suit didn't last long. In less than 20 sessions, the crotch started leaking. I couldn't identify the cause... Read More initially because the interior and exterior seam seal bead was intact. The seam pulled apart from within. Go figure. Maybe the next suit will be better, but I'm not sure I'd invest in another one. FYI: I've shipped wetsuits for repair, but it just doesn't work out well. Otherwise, the suit was warm albeit slightly large around the midsection for me. I'm 5'11" 160 lbs.
Zipper is Backwards
The chest zipper is backwards to any other chest zip wetsuit I have owned. Why would you do this? Why make an easy system difficult? You have to align up the zipper like you are putting on a jacket. Not like a pair of jeans where you just zip them up. Cold hands and trying to look down at your chest to get a visual to align the zipper to the track ... Read Moreis unrealistic. I will be sending this suit back and would not recommend to anyone based on this single design flaw.
Im 510 and 160, and historically Ive worn Large in Patagonia suits. This suit I ordered in Large and it seems to fit true to my size. One thing Ive noticed over the years is that Patagonia suits tend to be a tad heavier and less flexible compared to their counterparts found among the Big surf industry labels. Sorry guys - my opinion but I think the... Read Morere is some truth there. What you loose in a little more weight and less flexibility you gain tenfold in the quality of the materials and durability of Patagonia suits. I recently had an R3 that I wore regularly - 2-3 times a week during the colder months - for close to 3 years. When it wore in the knees and crotch - I sent it back to Patagonia for repair. A few weeks later for a small charge my suit was back with new panels and stitched back up. The Big surf label suits, for all the geewhiz advertising and flexible material, are toast within months - if youre lucky you get a year. Refund or warranty - stop, that really makes me laugh so hard I cant breathe. So there it is - while the whole sustainability ethos might appear rooted in the Yulex argument advanced by Patagonia, in my mind the product is sustainable because it lasts - and when it breaks it can be fixed. So yes, Patagonia suits really are all that.
Quality all the way
Purchased a top line suit of leading manufacture and closely compared. The other suit had many features that would be considered best to have. However, hands down the quality of the patagonia manufacture came through in feel, in fit and in function. I returned the other suit and been loving the R4
Bought 3 Patagonia wetsuits for self, husband and daughter. Wow! We all love them. Northern Washington Strait of Juan de Fuca water is no match for this wetsuit. We've worn them surfing and SUPing and wow. Comfortable and warm. My daughter and I do need help getting the hood off - it's really difficult - but it's getting easier with ... Read Moretime. We used the size chart and my 5'8" 140 lb husband got the small and my daughter and I are both 5'4" / 5'6" and 117 lbs and the size 6 is perfect. Yay.
Warm but seams didn't last
Very happy at first to hit the winter season on the Brittany coast with this suit... but the following fall (after maybe 20-30 sessions) a serious crotch leak made me cold way before the water was hitting its lowest points. My 4/3 summer wetsuit ended up keeping me warmer - sent the suit off to warranty and they said they couldn't fix it... no... Read Morew trying to decide if I want a new suit or my money back, I've seen some other posts on the internet complaining about seam durability in Patagonia suits, I just don't want to deal with a month-long warranty process again next year. Patagonia, make sure you get this sorted, as it's otherwise a great suit!
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