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I know this is a very popular jacket for several reasons but I was still very pleasantly surprised when it arrived and I tried it on. It's really nice. Very comfortable, warm, and extremely flattering. My only complaint is that it's slightly snug in the chest and shoulders. I'm hoping it will stretch out with time but I've been ... Read Morewearing it for two weeks and haven't noticed any give yet. Otherwise, it fits like a dream - the length and sleeve length are perfect for me.
I love this sweater.
I am 123lbs and 34B bra size. I love the way this fleece fits and feels. I wear it casually, to work and to ski. It keeps me warm, and I am able to put one layer underneath during my ski trips. It definitely keeps me warm. It is a slim fit, and if you like your stuff loose, I would size up.
Warm and stylish for work or going out
This was my first Patagonia purchase but won't be my last. The better sweater is lightweight but super warm- I even feel warm after I take the sweater off. I love that the XXS is designed for small ladies (rather than me ordering a Youth Large which is cut for "big kids"). The slim fit is flattering and the sleeves are the perfect le... Read Morength. If you plan to wear this over other sweaters or as an outer layer, consider sizing up- but I feel like this is true to size, especially with a tank top or fitted tee underneath.
Love it but..
Loved everything about it, fit and style wise. I hated that it developed a hole on the sleeve on the first wash . Their ironclad guarantee is amazingthough. I returned and waiting for my exchange.
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Nice and warm fleece
Ive been watching this fleece for the longest time and finally decided to buy it on sale. Its super warm and I loved it. I used it most of the time at work cause Im always cold. The only reason I gave it 3 stars is because its kinda tight on the arms. I wanted it to be a bit loose. I tried to size up to Small but the sleeves are too big on me so I ... Read Morereturned it and bought XS. I wish Patagonia would make petite sizes! Overall this fleece is still worth it and Im happy with the purchase.
Bought this for wear around the hospital since its always relatively cold but the fit is just so off. Its so tight. I would not be able to wear any long sleeves under my very fitted scrubs. In addition, the armpit portion is cut very inwards and is extremely uncomfortable. Im 55 110lbs. While this keeps me warm in the hospital this is not something... Read More that would work outside under 60F.
Arms are too slim/narrow for me
Nice jacket except it doesn't fit me very well! Dont care for the slim fit! The arms are too slim & tight! My arms arent string beans, they have some muscles on them. I would have to size up then the arms are way too long & not cuffed at the bottom so they fall down over my hands. The medium fits better through the body. The large fits... Read More the arm width but is too big everywhere else. I didnt keep it for myself. Want something that fits better.
I am a loyal Patagonia customer and have never had problems with their jackets until now. The armpits of this sweater are ridiculously high and cut into my armpits. The only way I could wear this is if I kept my arms above my head and that is not going to happen. Really disappointed.
Hello Nellie, I am very sorry to learn about the fit issues you experienced with the W's Better Sweater Jacket. You are welcome to [return](https://www.patagonia.com/returns.html) the item at your convenience. Thank you for sharing your feedback.
Wonderfully cozy and warm and perfect for the coming Fall season. Would work nicely as an under layer during really cold Winter days. My wife is 5 4 /115 lbs and slender. XS was form fitting and would work but the S gave her just enough room to feel slightly more comfortable but still keep a tailored style.
Ordered a size small but it was uncomfortably tight with scrubs underneath. Bending your elbows and reaching over to grab items with the sweater on is quite uncomfortable. The sweater would not zip up. I exchanged it for a medium, but it was too large and fit awkwardly. Too large on the arms and off the shoulders. The material is good quality and t... Read Morehe sweater has plenty of pockets for your stethoscope, snacks, pens, phone, etc. Not worth the price if you cannot comfortably zip it up during cold nights in the hospital. A bit disappointed, to be honest.
We're so sorry to hear you were disappointed with the Women's Better Sweater, the fit is definitely closer to the body in comparison to some other styles we carry. We'd recommend checking out our [Women's Retro Pile Jacket](https://www.patagonia.com/product/womens-retro-pile-fleece-jacket/22795.html?dwvar_22795_color=SGRY&cgid=womens-fleece) for a cozy alternative that isn't quite as snug.
Great sweater and is truly slim fit
This is a great sweater and I love the style. I am 5'6" and 126# and it will be a great fit with just a thin long sleeve under it, anything more and it will feel a bit snug for me. I like a little room when I layer. They large was too big and the arm length too long. I wish this came in a regular fit and then the medium would be perfect!!... Read More!
Warm and comfy
Love this jacket! I ordered a medium and a large. The medium looked better and fit better everywhere except the shoulders. It was too snug in the shoulders. The large is pretty big at the bottom on me but at least Ill have room for layers. Now I just need some cooler weather so I can wear it!
Nice for weather in the 50s
Had this already in the vest a favorite. Sleeves on this jacket, though, are long enough but very narrow -- not going to accommodate a sweater of any thickness underneath. Nevertheless, this item is useful for the transition weeks between autumn and real winter and then again during the cool Colorado Spring. Better than having only a puffer jacket... Read More to wear!
Great versatile piece
As a tall and muscular/athletic built woman, I appreciate the fit of this jacket. The sleeves fit my long arms and cut is flattering. There is enough room to wear this over a long sleeve T, turtleneck or other shirt. It is casual enough for every day wear but also dresses up nicely for a day at the office. Cozy and warm. Loving this new piece.
This is 3rd one!
This is my 3rd better sweater fleece. First zip up one I have 2 pullover 1/4 zipper ones. They fit great go with everything no matter the activity or weather. Love this so much I also bought one as a gift for my mother. Get tons of compliments on the colors I have. A made well product that will last a long time!
Warm and cozy
I love this fleece. I have some 1/4 zip-up also and wanted the convenience of the full zip. Im 53 and 118lb with medium muscular shoulders, so this fits well with just a tank or thin shirt under it. I had a previous version in S which felt big, but this is great for what I want it for. Warm and cozy.
I love my 1/4 Zip Better Sweater and decided to purchase a full zipper one to add to my Patagonia collection. My first sweater is a size Small, and I find it to be a little short for my frame. I decided to buy a Medium in this jacket and it turned out to be a great decision. It is a bit roomy, but in a nice way and allows for unrestricted movement.... Read More I definitely recommend sizing up if you are on the fence about which size to choose.
This is my second purchase I truly love this sweater I have it in different colors. The full zip sweater I purchase in a medium however the pull over I purchase a large. Really great quality and the fit is perfect. When I wash the sweaters I did not put them in the dryer Ill lay them flat to dry so Ive had no problems with shrinking
I ordered this sweater and the 1/4 zip up, the material is so different from other zip up, this full zip is very thin, not great quality, I was told Patagonia was great quality but now I am really questioning it .
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Nice but runs small
Was excited to receive it, but when I put it on, became disappointed! I wear XL and now going on large and this jacket is very snug! Especially around chest area (if you have larger chest) and in upper arms. I tried it on a T-shirt... sleeves are a bit big too... but I can live with it. Wish theyd have petite sizes...
I really wanted to love the Better Sweater but I can't. The sweater fits more like an XS so it is very tight throughout the arms and chest. The material also isn't very soft and doesn't have much give to it. It is a very nice looking sweater aside from those issues!
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Super Warm and Comfortable!
My favorite "all-the-time" sweaters! Whenever I get cold, I find myself grabbing one of these while hanging out at home, inside or out. I'd also consider taking one car camping. Note: I wear these as casual wear, my Performance Better Sweater is the only one I'd consider wearing while hiking/climbing or under a ski coat, etc... ... Read MoreI get too warm while hiking, skiing, climbing or running and can be found running outside in a tank top when it's snowing or raining (WA State, mild-mod climate).
Size and fabric-not what they used to be
I’ve worn better sweaters for years and when it came time to order a new one, was very disappointed to find that the fabric less soft and forgiving than previous versions. Much more fitted than they used to be. It fits more like a ski sweater. Disappointing.
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Following other reviews recommendations I
Following other reviews recommendations I ordered a size up than my normal patagonia size. I am 5'9" 150 lbs with broad shoulders. Ordered size M and whilst I believe my usual size S would fit well too, I am keeping the size M as it is really cozy. It has a thick material and I wear it everyday as a casual fall cardigan.
The jacket is soft, well made, and really nice looking. I ordered the light blue which is very pretty. In fact, I searched out the sweater after seeing my friend's. I'm 5'2" and 116 lbs. The XS was too snug. The S is good all around except that the sleeves are a bit long on me.
4th and counting
I absolutely love this sweater. I’m someone who gets cold very easily and is always the first to complain of being cold. I love how fitting it is and how warm it keeps me. I’ve tried this type of sweaters from other brands, but there was always something I didn’t quite like about them. The fit and performance of this sweater keeps me coming back fo... Read Morer more. I have 4 different colors and have recommended it to several friends, who also love theirs! Highly recommend!
Womens Better Sweater in Teal
I now own 5 Better Sweaters in various colors. That alone should speak to its versatility and quality. I love that they are just the right weight for a chilly day or even in the winter when I walk from my car into a building. I know these will wear well for a lifetime!
Fabulously Essential Basic!
The perfect layering piece! Warmth without feeling smothered. Handwarmer pockets that are actually warm, yet not bulky. It's become my go-to for everything from dog-walking to the-office-is-chilly. A really wonderful basic. I'm between a small and a medium in Patagonia. Since it's "slim fit,"I went with the medium, which i... Read Mores perfect.
I love it but
I love this better sweater it’s super warm and looks great for office or going out, except Patagonia doesn’t really make a fit works with big boobs. If you are questioning, look at the measurements and size up. I have also purchased this in a men’s before and the men’s fit pretty nice!
Sizing up isn't an option...
Got this in a M (I'm 5' 5" 135 lbs). The bottom opening is way too tight. Overall fit is slim. (Not regular fit as listed) Taking it off is difficult. Would send back for a large except the sleeves are already 2" too long! Great color though. I wish it had pockets.
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Better Sweater 2019
I do like these sweater jackets from Patagonia, but I have always thought the sweater would benefit from two design changes. First there needs to be a bit more room at the bottom of the sweater for those of us with hips. Just a slight flare towards the bottom of the sweater would help with fit for the majority of people. Secondly a two way zipper w... Read Moreould make this sweater perfect. The ability to unzip from the bottom would make sitting down much easier on the sweater and most people’s midriff. Otherwise it’s a gem!
Perfect for hiking in the Canadian Rockies!
I am 5'3" / 110lb / chest 32B. I bought XXS and it was perfect. I wore this during my 10 days hiking trip to Canadian Rockies. It kept me warm when I needed extra warmth. It also kept me cool from the mid day sunshine too ! (I don't sweat much..) Very comfortable, stretchy, breathable, stylish, functional with zipped pockets. I am co... Read Morensidering purchasing another color!
Best fleece jacket for petite people!
I can’t begin to tell you how many fleece jackets I have tried. I work in a hospital setting and I just wanted a jacket to wear at work when it gets cold. I am 5” 102 pounds and this is the first jacket that has fit me perfectly. The length on the arms is right and it forms my body. I’m extremely petite and so most jackets do not work. This one roc... Read Moreks! I bought it in 2 colors. Love Patagonia.
Well worth it
It's more than I wanted to pay, but it is such a great jacket - it's a warm and solid jacket. I wear it running errands, around the house and to work. I am usually an XL in tops, but bought down to a size L. I think it runs a bit big and a bit long, but not in an ill-fitting way.
Thought for the price it would be better material
It’s warm enough. The texture of the fabric is a little off putting, I thought for the price it would be made of better quality feeling material. Also the zippers on the arms make my arms feel cold. Looks good though and keeps me warm enough on cool summer nights in the mountains.
A good sweater
I love the fit and styling although it’s fairly straight and narrow so I could see how that might require sizing up of you’re curvy. Although it’s comfortable and warm, there’s no wind resistance. If there’s any wind it goes right though this. I have the recycled cashmere sweater and that actually provides more wind protection. Still, it’s comforta... Read Moreble and warm given those limitations.
This sweater is fantastic! Super comfortable, warm, and flattering. I brought it on a trip to Portland and it was all I needed to stay comfortable in the 40s-50s. Washes really well and travels well too. Ordered a M - 5'7, 135, athletic w broad shoulders and muscular arms, and the sleeves are on the tighter side but comfortable. I might want a... Read More L if I needed to wear long sleeves underneath. Great sweater and I would absolutely buy again at that great F&F sale price!!
Disappointed with the quality of the sweater
I discovered this morning one of the sleeves stitching is coming undone and i don’t think I’ve worn it for even a month
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Love style and color, but arms are skimpy. Should have returned it.
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I have purchased several of these over the years, so I’m not surprised I love my new one. Based on other reviews, I sized up this time. I usually wear a small but purchased a medium. I am 5’4.5” 128 lbs with broad shoulders and an athletic backside. The fit allows for layers underneath but doesn’t look too big, so thank you to my fellow reviewers f... Read Moreor the tip. The fabric feels a little thinner than my old ones, but that could be because the new one has only been washed a couple of times. No piling yet. The grey marl color is a great neutral. I will be bringing this on a business trip next month for the planned out-of-the-conference room activities. I can’t imagine going anywhere without a Patagonia fleece!
Perfect for Layers
I got the Better Sweater Jacket for a recent trip to Scotland where layering was needed. It is supposed to be a more fitted style, but I went up a couple sizes to be able to layer better. It worked out perfect! The design is very flattering, and the quality was great. This is a very versatile jacket and perfect for layering while hiking or spending... Read More time outside.
Women’s full zip better sweater jacket
This is the best sweater I have ever owned!! Actually this is the fifth time I’ve purchased the better sweater and I love them all. The comfort and fit only get better with wear. This item is great all year round every season. I wear it at night for summer camping and it’s the first thing I reach for in the morning. (I’ve even slept in it on chilly... Read More nights). It is totally snuggly soft and has warmth with breathability. I cannot do without my better sweater whether it’s to the market, around town or up in the mountains. Totally awesome!!
Good jacket (slim fit means slim fit)
I have the 2018 hoodie version of this sweater, but thought I'd speak to the pilling issue since the material is the same. I held off buying this for years because of what I'd read about the pilling, and finally went into my local store this past winter and asked one of the store associates about it. He was very nice and said that it was ... Read Morea known issue and that Patagonia has been working on it, and that if I did decide to buy it, I could expect some pilling -- but also that if it got really bad, I could bring it back for a potential exchange. So I bought it and have been wearing it pretty much nonstop for the last four months. Here is my opinion, as someone who loves her fleecy-fleece blankets and clothing: I think that almost all fleece is going to pill, or mat, or a combination of the two, at some point. Mine is somewhat pill-y all around the bottom ... but it really isn't that bad compared to some dressier sweaters I have. And surprisingly enough, even though I usually have a backpack strap on my right shoulder, the shoulder area hasn't pilled at all. If you have the patience, I would recommend hand-washing the jacket inside-out and air-drying, just to get as much life out of it as you can. I would not put it in the dryer, even on 'no heat' -- the repetitive action of the washer or dryer is what mats/beats up the fleece. The cut: When they say 'slim fit', they mean it. I used the online size chart and tried on different sizes in-store, and the online chart was accurate. But the jacket is a little tight in the shoulders and the arms are slim -- that's just the way the cut is. I can wear two T-shirts (long-sleeve and short-sleeve) under the jacket and still move, though, so it's not crazily restrictive. The only con is that after I bought mine, I started seeing tons of people wearing the same jacket in the same color (Birch White). Men, women, on the bus, on the street, everywhere. You would think we were all finance bros or something, haha. So if you don't mind seeing others wearing what you thought of as "your" jacket... Overall, I'm glad I spent the money and would buy it again. I've read the negative reviews and I'd still recommend it! I can't argue with the reviewer who said that Patagonia is marketing this more as an "athleisure" jacket. (For the record, I like a good long sleeve and I would use this to go skiing in, so can't agree with her on those points.) But I still like it because it's very warm, very well-made and designed, and the sales associate was willing to talk honestly with me about the pilling issues and potentially accept it for an exchange/return. You can get a similar jacket from other companies, for much less money. But I think Patagonia puts enough effort into this one to make it worth it.
We've also got a great "how-to" video on de-pilling your Better Sweater on our Twitter page [here](https://twitter.com/patagonia/status/670330626239688705?lang=en). Check it out!
Love the better sweater!
I had to go up a size from my usual xs to small. The xs is too tight under the armpits and top of back, but fits perfectly everywhere else. The small is a little bigger and longer in the sleeves, but I usually layer underneath, so it works fine. Other than that, I love it.
Sizing is way off
I have two better sweaters (a zip-up hoodie and a pull-over) that are both small. They're probably 6-7 years old at least. I bought a small in the regular zip up jacket and it's way too tight. I could barely get the sleeves on and then when I finally did and zipped up the front, I felt like a sausage. I was sad it didn't work out bec... Read Moreause I've had such great luck in the past.
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should be called The Best Sweater!
This is my second better sweater and the first one i bought over 8 years ago... only got a new one as i wanted a bit bigger one. The original is still great. it does pill a bit so i picked up a lil battery operated pill getter... the sweater is warm, looks great, just love it!
Better Sweater is better than your average sweater
My green Better Sweater is lightweight and comfy, but does run on the small side. It's a great versatile piece. I use my Better Sweater as a layer under my wind/water layer and it's great keeping me cozy while I'm trekking thru the prairie facing the fierce winds as well as the perfect layer to peel off halfway into a hike.
women's sizing issue
While I love all things patagonia and own several item, this last purchase has been frustrating. Being 5'7" and 130lbs, I ordered a medium, which was tight on the left arm because of the zip pocket and a little too snug across the shoulders. The large arrived and it's huge on me. I can barely get my windbreaker over it when needed. I... Read More get sick of making returns so I kept it, but will not be using for streetwear and it looks a bit too sloppy.
Even tighter shoulders/arms than the 1/4-zip
I own the 2017-2018 quarter-zip Better Sweater in XS (left a review on it but in summary, the arms and shoulders are insanely tight compared to the body which is fairly boxy). I tried this style on hoping for either an updated fit this year or more give because it's a full-zip. No luck. I actually think it's even tighter than last year&#x... Read More27;s style which is barely wearable. I couldn't even get the sleeves on all the way to try the XS (my upper arms are definitely muscular but not insane) and I couldn't lift my arms more than halfway in the S. I tried on men's sizes but they go down mid-thigh on me. I'm at the point of replacing my Patagonia gear from 2007-2010ish and am blown away by how much the fit has changed. The sleeves in all tops are no longer roomy (isn't that the point of athletic clothing--to be able to move and do athletic activities?) and tend to run at least 3-4 inches longer than older styles. It appears Patagonia is designed more for "athleisure" than for athletes nowadays. Hoping the fit changes next year before I have to switch do a brand suited to athletes who use their arms. Fabric quality appears to still be good...
Warm, cozy trim-fitting performance fleece
This is a great piece when your need to pack multiple layers for uncertain changing weather conditions. I brought it with me on a kayaking trip and the shoulders were comfortable for paddling and it's slim profile made it easy to layer under a rain jacket. This is great for outdoor activities but it looks nice enough for casual weekend wear wh... Read Moreen out and about. I haven't experienced the pilling others have complained about. The only problem, and the reason for one star off, is that the sleeves are a tight fit, so if you are layering over a long sleeved top, you better hold on tight to the sleeve of your baselayer or it will be up past your elbow when you pull this jacket on.
Not long enough ...
I’m wanting a fleece that hits mid thigh (32”) because I want my hips to be covered when it is cold, due to prosthesis/metal screws in both hips. When it is cold outside, I feel it in my hips — and I want them to be covered in Patagonia fleece! Please make fleece items optionally longer!
I love this! It fits me PERFECTLY!! I am tiny (4’9”, 88lbs) and the XXS is just perfect! I have such a hard time finding things that fit well, so this makes me to happy that I will likely purchase another one. The inside is so super warm. It’s like fuzzy (which I didn’t expect) and so comfortable. I can’t comment on the piling as others stated beca... Read Moreuse I haven’t washed it yet. I’m hoping this holds up well because it may be my new favorite jacket!
So much piling!
I love Patagonia and I want to love this but it is piling like crazy. I live in Southern California and I bought it in June 2018. I don't wear it often and haven't even washed it since its such minimal use, however the jacket is piling and it looks terrible. I bought a sweater stone and it helps but it changes the way the knitting looks. ... Read MoreOverall I'm disappointed in the quality simply because I don't wear it often.
Nice Lite Jacket
I was gifted a fleece pullover for Christmas from Patagonia and I'm not much of a fan of things having to be pulled over my head on and off several times so I sent it back for a credit and added money to it and purchased this jacket that was full zip instead. I got it and its a nice lite weight jacket...but I was under the impression he would ... Read Morebe a little bit thicker. I read reviews saying it fit slim so I got a large instead of my normal medium and it roomy but still fits well so I would size up if you want a comfortable fit looser fit. It honestly wasn't worth the money as far as quality but I know the price tag is more so for the Name. But when you think how Patagonia sells snow clothes and hiking apparel this isn't one of their super warmer items. But still happy with it I have it on now
Not a fan of the fabric
So I am 6'0" and always looking for a nice black sweater/jacket with sleeves long enough and came across this beautiful jacket in December 2018. I am a Medium in Tall sizes (if available) and a Large in regular so went with a large. Fits AMAZING for me but I am just not loving the fabric! I have a few other Patagonia items that are holdin... Read Moreg up well but this one started pilling and fraying fairly quick considering I haven't worn it too many times. Never wore it for anything other than casual light wear. I know this is polyester which pills anyways but I guess I wasn't expecting it to be so soon considering the price tag and brand. I'm careful when I wash it and do not put it in dryer and it just looks pretty bad. I did some research on Patagonia website and saw they recommend buying the sweater stone to remove the pills. I bought the exact sweater stone they recommend and it just made it looks worse. It took some of the pills and fuzz off but it made it look pretty bad where you cant really see the lines in the details of the fabric if that makes sense? It made it look almost fleecy almost as if stone changed the overall appearance of the jacket. Pretty unhappy with this purchase and will probably avoid this type of jacket in the future.
Love the fit and warmth - disappointed in the pilling
I LOVE my better sweater. It is warm, fits well and looks great! BUT... I've had this for about 3 month now and it has developed CONSIDERABLE pilling around the pockets and under the arms. The pilling is also just starting to show on the chest. I am pretty disappointed as the jacket now is starting to look old and dingy. When I bought this it ... Read Morequickly became one of my go to items to wear to work. I am worried that by the end of this season the pilling will be so bad that the jacket will no longer be suitable to wear to work.
Material not as soft or thick as before.
I have several generations of the Better Sweater jacket & it seems like the softness of the material continues to decline. This past season, I bought the dark currant & unfortunately left it in a hotel. I liked the color so much I did get another in November. I noticed the fleece seemed to be stiffer & thinner than my first dark currant... Read More jacket. I wonder if it has to do with the complaints of the jacket pilling. In response to those complaints, as I've said, I own several generations of these jackets & have only started to notice pilling on my men's chestnut BSJ (early version with the nicer zipper pulls) recently. That's only because I wear that one the most & practically live in BSJ's. So, I don't think that pilling was ever a problem before. Getting back to the declining quality, I'd rather Patagonia return to the softer, earlier versions of material at the risk of decreased durability. Having said that, the durability of the earlier jackets was never an issue for me. The fit is okay. I am 5'3" & 120 lbs. The small fits me well although I prefer a boxier fit.
Slim Fit, more like Straight Jacket...
I received this jacket as a Christmas gift. I love the color, the fabric, the style, and the features. I received a size S. I am old, and have always worn size S. I’m 5’3” and 120 lbs. the shoulders were very narrow and the armhole depth is too small. I was unable to even wear it over a tee shirt. I exchanged it for a M, and the fit through the sho... Read Moreulders is better, but still feels bunchy with a shirt on underneath. Also the torso is a little sloppy and sleeves a tad long, which I could deal with, but there’s just something off about the proportions of this jacket. I’m going to try another Patagonia jacket today. If I can’t find one I like, I’ll be looking at another brand. I’ve worn slim fit before, but this is all wrong. Can’t say don’t buy it, but I would recommend trying it on first.
Zipper broke off
Zipper broke after a couple months of regular wear. Was on hold for over an hour for customer service. Phone call never answered or returned. Completely unacceptable customer service. Buyer beware. Great jacket until the zipper breaks in two for absolutely no good reason. Will no longer be buying from this company.
Loved the old Better Sweater. Fit has totally changed.
The old model of this sweater was one of my favorite Patagonia items. I got it large and it had roomy sleeves and a roomy fit and was a great layering piece. I often wore it with one of my old Patagonia fleeces and other layers underneath because there were three pockets that zipped for my phone, glasses, and keys. My size hasn't changed but t... Read Morehe fit has. I don't see any way to use this as an over-layer, even in the XL and I'm not a huge person. I don't know what larger women are supposed to do. REI and newer clothing brands are accommodating more body types now. Not sure why Patagonia is going in the other direction.
Patagonia, you are better than this and it’s really disappointing. Two years ago my boyfriend bought me this exact sweater in the purple shade and I fell in love with how warm and thick the material was. I decided to buy the violet gray shade for my birthday and when I opened the package and tried it on I was extremely sad to see how thin and cheap... Read More the sweater looked. I will be returning it tomorrow
Good style not good quality
Considering the price I was hoping this jacket would last me years to come. I was wearing this at the office as my office loves to keep the AC cranked up. I wasn't even using this outside yet, as I live in Texas and it hasn't gotten that cold. This jacket pilled INSANELY quick. It looked really ratty. Like I said earlier for the price I w... Read Moreas expecting better quality material that would wear and tear better- especially since this jacket did this without even taking it outside. I really liked the fit of the jacket so I wanted it to work.
Also can't stop wearing it
I enjoy wearing this jacket because it's comfy,warm,but not too warm,and looks great. Can't comment on longevity yet,but much of my clothes pill,so I wouldn't be surprised. Anyway,I just thought someone out there might appreciate sizing commentary: I'm 5'2" and 107 lbs with 32B and shorter torso,and tried both XXS and ... Read MoreXS. I ultimately kept the XXS because although the arm opening was a bit small,the torso fit much nicer length- and width-wise. It fit much better under my size XS shells,and I had no plans to layer under the Better Sweater.
I bought this sweater a few months ago in the fall and it did not disappoint whatsoever. It is fitted,flattering,super warm,and feels very sturdy and good-quality. It is starting to pill a little bit on the sleeves but I have washed it a lot. I feel like this sweater will last years and I can definitely see myself buying it in other colours as well... Read More. It's super comfortable for hiking as well as everyday life activities. When I got it I couldn't stop wearing it. I love love love this sweater!
Arm pocket is an unfortunate addition
I bought this jacket with custom embroidery on it so I unfortunately cannot return it. The arm pocket is so awful and completely impractical,I can't imagine why anyone would use it. A breast pocket would have been a much better addition or they should have just left the third pocket off entirely. The jacket fits perfectly with the exception of... Read More the left sleeve,but the left sleeve feeling too small is a major let down. Because of the stitching around the arm pocket,it is too snug/uncomfortable to wear anything under the sweater apart from a very tight long sleeve shirt or a sleeveless shirt. Pretty disappointing.
Buy a different fleece
I love Patagonia and own more fleece jackets than is probably necessary,but this jacket was disappointing. I am a college student and I bought this jacket so that I would wear a fleece while looking slightly more put together. This jacket is thinner than my other fleece jackets,pills and is static-y. Save your money and buy a re-tool snap instead.
Perfect to wear at home on frigid days
I just bought my second Better Sweater Jacket in a different color. Love the comfort and now I can set the thermostat a bit lower and still be comfortable. I use it as a layer under coat,or by itself on warmer days. Fit is good and I love the full zipper and pockets.
First version was best
I bought the very first version of this jacket years ago while working in Colorado. It still looks new. I have bought several since then and the quality is horrible. They pile and look awful quickly. Again,let me repeat ' the very first one I bought still looks amazing and I wear it all the time. Please look at how your product manufacturing a... Read Morend materials have changed since the beginning. It was much better 7-8 years ago!
I got this fleece in black for Christmas and love it. The pockets are great and the full-zip was important to me for my job. It's also incredibly warm for such a thin top! I've worn this with a thick shirt underneath in just below freezing temps and was warm enough. Sizing was a bit weird- I'm usually a S in fitted Patagonia tops,and... Read More an XS in non-fitted tops,so I requested the S for this fleece. It fits on the arms,but has some extra room around my waist. But the XS was too tight on the arms. I ended up keeping the S so I could layer things underneath! I think of this fleece as more of a jacket,whereas the 1/4 zip is more of a sweater/layering piece. It's professional enough to wear to work when the building is cold,and has been great for walking and hiking as well.
Athleisure at its' finest.
I've had my better sweater jacket size extra small in the colour lupine for about a year. It's a gorgeous colour. It stretches out a little over time so I would definitely go with your regular size. I can wear a long sleeve and my micro d fleece hoody in the girls size extra large underneath. The pocket lining is super soft. It looks casu... Read Moreal yet put together and works well as a layering piece. The wind goes right through it,so I recommend wearing a windbreaker on top to elevate this issue. Also,wait for a sale,as they are overpriced despite being a lovely item. I feel good every time I put it on. It pills a bit but I wash it by hand in cold water and hang to dry,which has minimized this issue.
Love the fit and the color...
I love the comfort and slightly tapered fit of this sweater jacket. Very comfortable,and easy to layer underneath. I did get a size large,and it fits perfectly. The sleeves come down over my hands,which I like,and the hem is long enough to go down over the hips. I am 5'6.5",and 142 pounds.
Better than all others...a great jacket
I bought this Sweater Jacket in Dark Ruby Red last fall and I love it so much,I just purchased a second in Pelican. Several of the other "sporting brand" clothing labels make a similar sweater fleece like this Patagonia and I've honestly owned one from each...Cabela's,Land's End,LL Bean,J Crew,etc. By far,this Patagonia Bet... Read Moreter Sweater Fleece Jacket way surpasses the competition in so many ways. I am 5'3" and 145 lbs,so I probably require the PETITE MEDIUM in order for the fit to be near perfect or 100%. However,I prefer a longer length,so I never purchase petite clothing. As others have stated,the REGULAR SMALL fit me well in the shoulders,bust and arms (arms are long) but the middle was tight; therefore,I repurchased in a REGULAR MEDIUM and the fit is good...a bit large in the shoulders,arms & bust but good in the middle. With that said,it is the quality,comfort and design of the Patagonia that for me,beats out the competition. I have an older Land's End Sweater Fleece,which I love but the quality of the Land's End newer items has significantly deteriorated. Any polyester item will likely "pill" at some point but this Patagonia has held up well. I hand wash my sweater and air dry it,so shrinkage has not been a problem. I love the colors,I love the warmth and comfort,I love the design...it's a great little jacket. I live in Michigan,which gets COLD in the winter and I lived in my Patagonia last winter! I layer up,throw a scarf around my neck,thrown on a hat "n gloves and I am good to go all winter! I dislike feeling bulky when I drive,so the weight and thickness of this jacket is PERFECT given my dislike for bulk. Sizing is a bit tricky but overall,this is a wonderful,warm,durable and cozy jacket! Buy one and you will love it,too!
Great versatile jacket!
I bought my first Better Sweater jacket about a year and a half ago and have added four since. This is a great versatile jacket for many occasions! Perfect as a stand alone or under a vest for sports like fall/winter paddle,late season boating or just watching sporting events. It holds up well and is very comfortable to wear. I normally wear a medi... Read Moreum but got a large since I like to have more room to move in sports. Highly recommend!
A little big
I really love this jacket but it is just a little too big. I ordered a pullover in a size large because it ran snug,so I ordered a large in this jacket. I definitely could have ordered a medium. I'm still going to keep it and hope it doesn't look too big! Very comfortable and warm.
Better sweater not Better
I returned this. I have Been buying Patagonia for over 10 years. My family has 4 of these better sweaters and you are not making them with the same quality material. The material is thinner and not as soft as my other ones. Not to mention they are shorter. Very dissapointed. I would not recommend especially for the price.
Love this. It feels so good I almost wish I didn't live in Hawaii so I could wear it more often. I bought it mainly for trips to Oregon and Nevada,damp days or cool nights,but I've worn it here on rainy winter evening and at the top of Mauna Kea for star gazing. It's going with me next month for hiking,apres SUP,early morning pre-ski... Read More wear,nights out in the high desert. I bought it a little large so I could layer,and I just like things a little looser down here to breathe. Comfortable,just feels good. Nice colors.
Great every day jacket but strange sizing
Bought on sale a few months ago,this jacket has quickly entered my everyday arsenal. I normally wear a medium but got it in small as I wanted a slimmer fit,which I thought was more flattering. I think because I sized down I can only comfortably wear tank tops and T-shirts,but my boyfriend also finds it kind of uncomfortable to wear long sleeves wit... Read Moreh this jacket (he wears a men's small/medium and got it in men's medium). I usually wear this as a base layer underneath a rain jacket or packable down jacket.
Love this jacket!
I bought this jacket for a trip out West during May for cooler temps. It was a perfect piece to have. I really like the fabric quality,as well as the beautiful color I chose Cuban blue. I'm 5'7'' and 130 lb. I like the trim fit of the size small. Very happy with my purchase.
I really wanted to love this jacket but couldn't find the right fit. I'm 5'4 135 lbs with 34D chest. I ended up trying both the small and medium but was disappointed on the fit of both. The medium fit me well in the chest but was extremely baggy everywhere else and made me look like I was wearing a men's jacket. The arm length w... Read Moreent a good 2-3 inches past my wrist. The small fit well everywhere besides my chest and made me feel constricted. I much prefer the performance better sweater (in medium). This product was much more accommodating to a larger chest. That product seems to run a bit smaller for a medium and has nice stretch panels at the slide with a less boxy fit that the original better sweater. This led to a slim but not tight fit that was more flattering (and with a drop hem!!!).
Great fit,great style
Got this for my birthday this year and I LOVE it. Originally bought size XS but after debating,ended up exchanging it for XXS (which Patagonia doesn't always carry this size so I wasn't even aware there was one this small!) I am 5'1 and ~100 lbs -the XS was a bit roomy in the middle and arms and the sleeves were much too long. I am e... Read Morextremely happy with the XXS -it is truly a great fit and I can't wait to get many year's worth of use out of it!
This is an ideal layering piece for unpredictable spring-time weather,and it's also a great stand-alone staple in my closet! I'm 5'2 with narrow shoulders,and I ordered a small -- I still have enough room to even wear cardigans under this fleece jacket. I highly recommend this jacket,and my only regret is that I didn't purchase ... Read Morethis sooner!
This sweater is very light weight and I hoped it would be perfect for backpacking. It has a nice fit in the torso and shoulders and the sleeves are a perfect length. The small is still a little wide for me at the bottom. (I'm 5'6 and 140 lbs) It's not a big deal for casual wear but with the hip belt of a pack fastened,it flares out a... Read Morewkwardly. I'll return this and find another that is a little longer.
Very warm and comfortable,and love the purple color. I usually buy petite sizes and I do have to turn under the sleeves but the overall length is good. I was worried the the medium would be to tight in the bust but it is a comfortable fit. Haven't wore it outside yet but it's great in the house.
wanted to love it
I really wanted to love this jacket. It's comfortable but the sleeves are really long. I'm about 5'7" and have average length arms but I have to roll up the ends of the sleeves which I don't like to do. I got it on sale for 50% off,it wouldn't be worth paying full price.
Worst experience with this jacket
I bought this jacket a few months ago. I loved the jacket and once I washed it the zipper looked funny after that and I didn't even put it in the dryer. I've tried to fix the zipper because it's not straight anymore like when I first purchased it. Very unhappy with the quality of this jacket
Warm but not in love with the Fit
The better sweater is very warm but I'm not exactly in love with the fit on me. I bought a small only bc the XS was so tight on my bust. In the store,I thought the small look good but upon seeing myself in pictures,wearing the sweater,I see that it wears me rather than I wear it. It is rather boxy so I feel some contouring in the sweater would... Read More be nice. The warmth is nice so I'm not sure if I'll keep it.
Very warm and soft
I'm 5'7 145 pounds 36C chest and found the medium to be best fit with a long sleeve tee underneath or even a light sweater. The small group was very snug but I can see how others might like that fitted fit. It's very warm but not windproofed and very soft,comfortable and has nice features like the arm zipper that fits my iPhone 7 plu... Read Mores (playing music aloud with the volume up you can hear it nicely...no muffling sound) and the pocket zippers. Overall,super pleased.
My new favorite piece of clothing
I find myself choosing the rest of my wardrobe around this item. Originally,I got one for my dad. Then I bought 2 for myself. I've received many compliments for the way it wears. I love it because it is slightly warmer than a fleece but fits comfortably. Love the zip pockets. I wear it as an everyday item but I have also worn it hiking.
Great for everyday and activities!
Love this jacket! Got it for Christmas and have worn it as often as possible since! It's great for every day wear and for activities! I wear it hiking a lot! Went a size up so it was good for layering and it works with things under it but is not too big on its own either!
Disappointed in Quality
I loved this jacket for a casual day out,but the quality really disappointed me. It pilled terribly! So much so that my husband even mentioned that I needed to retire my jacket. I thought the Better Sweater would have lasted me at least a few years! I have a North Face Windwall that I've had for nearly 10 years that I got more use out of and i... Read Moret still looks brand new. I just expected more from Patagonia.
Great fit and quality
I've wanted the Patagonia Better Sweater in this color for awhile (already have it in black),and I was happy to purchase it at full price on the day Patagonia donated all its proceeds to charity. This is a beautiful jacket that fits really well - close to the body to keep you warm without being restrictive. I also love the special features suc... Read Moreh as zippered pockets,including one on the sleeve. Couldn't ask for a better product.
Love the handsome look and feel
I bought this in October - it was to be my every moment wearing garment while I work at home and go to the store and go hiking on Saturdays. The first one did not survive the first wash without pilling every inch. However,I returned it to my local Patagonia store they told me that the wear and tear of this fabric is equal to the fabrics it is used ... Read Morewith and washed with. (unlike my indestructible Patagonia hairy fleece) Pilling will occur with use and with washing,or with wearing with opposing types of textile fibres. I had an option to trade it for another product - but chose to repurchase the same and vow to wear only with poly/nylon lined jackets and will wash hand-wash and hang dry from now on.
I bought this sweater to replace my previous fleece. Overall,I love this sweater so much. It is very warm and when temperatures reach well below 0C,it works perfectly as a layering piece over thermals/sweaters and under more insulated jackets. I also use this as my outside layer when running in the very cold temperatures. I am short and petite (5&... Read More#x27;2) so I purchased the XS. The sleeve and hip length is perfect. The pockets are in perfect position with durable zippers. My only complaint is the outside fabric is starting to pill and giving it a slightly haggard look. Even though I gentle cold water wash and air dry.
it's a sweater,it's a jacket...it's a "swacket"
Ridiculous review title aside,this is an insanely soft,warm garment. Sadly,I first pressed it into service while propped up in chairs during an all-nighter at the hospital; the jacket kept me warm and was the most comfortable (and comforting) aspect of the night. Easy to care for (permanent press cold cycle,line dry) and very warm (ideal for 50s an... Read Mored below) I've worn it outside as a jacket and indoors as a cardie. Super happy with the slim fit,can be easily layered over a tee or base layer.
Sizes are off
Bought this for my daughter for Christmas. She normally wears a small so I ordered a small. It was huge on her so we had to go to the store that carried Patagonia to have her try on other sizes and realized she was an extra small. She returned it to get the extra small and you were out of stock. Not happy about this gift
Warmest,most comfortable sweaters!
I have four of these sweaters purchased over the years. I wear them all the time. They are warm,comfortable and allow full freedom of movement. The first one I bought about seven years ago and it's still in perfect condition after being washed multiple times. I highly recommend this product!
Very warm and versatile!
I bought this jacket a month ago and it has become my go to warm layering jacket in the midst of a Minnesota winter! The fit is just fitted enough but not too fitted,the fabric is thick enough to be very warm but not bulky. I particularly like the length of this jacket compared to similar jackets by other brands since it's not too long,not too... Read More short.
I now own 2 of these jackets,one in the gray and one in the teal. They fit well are soft. Ideal for spring/fall. My only issue is that I have washed the gray one 5-6 times and the inside and outside of the jacket have pilled. You can tell the gray one is more worn out after just 5-6 washings. Because of that I'm now hesitant to wash my brand n... Read Moreew real jacket. In comparison,I bought one of the retool fleece jacket several years ago and even after all that time it still looks new.
Bought this a little over two months ago and I am in love! Thin enough to wear under something but also thick enough to keep me warm if I need to quickly run to the car quickly or take out the trash. Definitely runs small though so size up,especially if you want to have the option of wearing something thicker than a t shirt underneath.
Pilling ruins it
I bought this to wear to work as a nurse and was so happy with the fit and functionality I bought it another color. Unfortunately after just a few wears over a couple of months it has pilled so badly I no longer feel comfortable wearing it to work as it looks sloppy and worn out. I am very disappointed and regret spending the money and encouraging ... Read Moreothers to purchase as well.
functional,but excessive pilling over time
Owned this in black for a couple of years. Finally gave it up because the pilling was so bad that I felt disheveled every time I put it on. This piece was not a keeper and I'd be hesitant to try any other "Better Sweater" items for this reason.
I've had this sweater in the violet red for one month and I love it! The colour is so vibrant. I was worried it would be too warm because it is very thick but in fact it's quite light weight. The wind still gets through it easily. Tons of compliments on this colour. Great purchase.
Bought this 2 years ago and it is still holding strong (and I wear it ALL the time)- best "jacket"/light-layer I have ever owned. You can wear this just about anywhere. I would wear this to and from class on 10-below days in the winter and I was only slightly chilly. I am 6'1,160lbs and this fit just right,the sleeves are not too lo... Read Moreng,not too short! I also have very short friends who own this jacket and it fits them perfectly as well. Only complaint is that it does not hold up against the wind,the cold goes right through it. I go to school in Chicago and I need a light windbreaker on those especially windy days.
One of a Wardrobes Foundational Piece
This thing goes everywhere and does everything.... From the bush/tundra of AK villages to the CO Rockies,to work,and chilly days in WA.... as a mama,nurse,backpacker.... this piece has been one of my favorites and most essential. Easy to wash,quick to dry,durable and resistant to wear and tear. I have the color black- it has not faded but does pi... Read Morell some when used on low cycle in drier (its best just to air dry). The fit is perfect... as a busty lady it provides enough room and contour. Def. recommend this to everyone/everywhere.
I love this jacket. Works everywhere from an ice rink,hiking up and down waterfall trails,to taking a late night walk down the beach. I've had it for about 2 months and it is definately a staple now. I'd like a few more. The fit is perfect,I'm 5'2 (and built like the hockey player I am) and the small fit nicely. Two thumbs up!
Not only true to size,this sweater jacket is warm,soft inside,and very stylish. Its warmth is second to none and I'll never purchase a fleece zipup of any kind from now on. Zippers are sturdy and keeps its shape. Love that the collar can be worn popped up or down. LOVE this sweater jacket!
Loved it,until I didn't
This is my second full-zip better sweater. I had no problems with the first one for years,so I bought a second in a different color. After a month of regular wear and wash the zipper pull completely broke off. I am extremely disappointed. I am not sure if the design changed,or what,but this is not the same quality as my first better sweater.
Cozy and stylin', but...
This jacket is cozy, fits well, and looks great. The color options are vibrant and beautiful. I wear it around the house (kinda like a sweatshirt) and outside on dry, mild spring/fall days. It bridges the gap well between being functional, athletic, and semi-dressy. The fleece on the inside has remained soft and comfy on the skin despite a few wash... Read Moreings. It's kept its shape, too. My only complaint is that it pills, which always looks kinda yucky. I've actually taken a pair of clippers to it to shave them off (which works surprisingly well).
Nice,but too small
I was so excited for this sweater to arrive. But when it did it was too small in the bust and arms. I ordered an XXsmall going off of the size chart Patagonia provides and it was really tight in the bust and short the arms. I promptly returned the XXsmall and I am now waiting for an Xsmall,but based on the size chart I will swim in the Xsmall. So s... Read Moreize up when ordering. Otherwise really happy with the Better Sweater.
love the Better Sweater!
The Better Sweater is one of my favorite things. It warm and cozy and very comfortable. It can be outerwear in cool fall or spring weather (as we know it in the Pacific Northwest) and works perfectly as a sweater in cold weather. Other reviewers have mentioned pilling and I agree that's an issue. But I love mine so much,I just de-pill them. I ... Read Morealso got a tip from a salesperson that if they're washed inside out,pilling is reduced. The fit is great: slim,but not tight. The Supply Green is a lot brighter than the photo shows--it's a real bright lime green. I've found the other photos to be true to the colors and the color selection is great. I also like that it's a low-impact product during its production.
Good, But Not Great Jacket
This is my first Patagonia Jacket. Coming from a North Face fanatic, this jacket was somewhat underwhelming. I has the option of choosing this jacket or a North Face Denali, and I chose the Better Sweater instead. Obviously, this was cheaper, but I'd thought I'd give Patagonia a try. I'm 5'4 and 118 lbs, thinking it was slim fit... Read More, I got a S , and when I tried it on, it kinda had an awkward fit. It had a lot of room in the waist area, but quite tight on the arms. I live in the Bay Area, and the coldest it is, is about 40 degrees and I wore it out today along with a long sleeve t-shirt and still felt a little cold. As a for washing, this jacket went through the washer and dryer and there was no pilling (inside out of course). Maybe if I has extra cash, I would get the linen one.
Solid work jacket
I am a home care nurse in and out car and very hot house during fall and winter months . This better sweater jacket is the bomb! Looks great on professional pockets just right size, warm great laying piece with coat or vest. Yes the older version piles don't dry them cuts back on the pile and the dry quickly. I am the proud owner of six of the... Read Morem now.
Quality not up to previous Patagonia purchases
Having owned various Patagonia fleece jackets, the basic full-zip fleece was discontinued. I purchased the "better sweater" as a replacement. Within no time the jacket started to pill. And NO, I do not want to have to use a lint buzzer after each wear as it is not what I expect from a Patagonia product. I do not recomment this product.
Perfect Wool Sweater Replacement
Let me preface my review by saying that I live in New Hampshire's White Mountains and I get cold easily. I wear fleece daily year-round for work and casual wear, as well as numerous outdoor activities. My husband and I each have 6-8 Patagonia Better Sweater fleeces. They are what the name says, "the better sweater"! These fleeces ar... Read Moree the perfect replacements for our older wool sweaters. I often wear mine with corduroy skirts, tights, and boots - dressing them up with colorful shirts or scarves for work. To care for these fleeces and maintain "the better sweater" look, I machine-wash them inside-out and hang them to air-dry. I have not had a problem with pilling. For hiking, kayaking, skiing, etc. - I prefer to wear other types of fleeces.
Best all-purpose sweater
I got this two years ago as a Christmas present and it's one of the best presents I've ever received. In the spring and fall I wear this constantly (I was actually called out by a friend for wearing it three weekends in a row) and it is still in just as good of a shape as when I got it. I do not do anything extreme in it, mostly hiking, w... Read Morealking the dog, and running errands but at least 3 of my friends have now bought the same sweater.
great while it lasted.....
this fleece was a gift, and i loved the look and feel of it. great for east coast fall weather - you could throw it on for a nice chilly hike, but still feel comfortable wearing it out to a casual dinner afterwards. unfortunately, it was very susceptible to pilling (especially on the chest), and later, small holes. i ended up returning it....i'... Read More;m now replacing it with the tech fleece jacket, and hoping for a better outcome.
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